Huh.

[sariagray]

I was thinking thoughts last night. This is dangerous. There are two things that kept nagging at me:

1) When Jack gets stuck in 1941 with Tosh, are there three Jacks (er, four, if you count the real one) in the world at that time? I don't know the year Jack met the Doctor...but it had been implied that he was there right after the real Jack dies. So let's say he gets there a day or two before, lays low, and then adopts the name after he dies....There are at least two Jacks, because he was there in 1941 after getting stuck in the 19th century. But there may be three. That is...a lot.

2) Everyone in this episode has some sort of affair (if only brief) with both men and women. Gwen makes out with Carys, but has Rhys. Owen allows himself to be kissed by that guy after he tries to pick up his girlfriend (damn alien pheromones) but obviously has numerous straight pairings, including Diane. Tosh has Mary and Tommy. Ianto has Lisa and Jack. But for all of his talk of "labels" and "categories," who has Jack had any sort of on-screen "relationship" with? Ianto, real!Jack, and John. Those are the only people Jack has kissed that we've seen, right? And it wasn't really implied that he was off kissing other people throughout the show's timeline. Yes, I know. Estelle, Lucia, etc. But we haven't seen that, and it's all in the past. So NOW who's putting himself in a neat little box? I think he's all talk. And maybe that means that things don't really get better; maybe they even get worse. This is inspiring fic, and that is also dangerous.

Comments

[thebuttonontop.livejournal.com]

..... i also noticed that Jack only shags ianto. all his talk... all his bluster, but he only ever sleeps with and gets cozy with ianto. he may kiss several people.. but thats just his way of saying hello... lol.
i can't wait to read the fic's that are coming from it. :) and yeah, the serious amount of sex/snogging, etc in this show is amazing.

as for #1... i can't even tell you what i'm thinking right now. ;)

[sariagray.livejournal.com]

Yes! I am convinced that Jack is the most monogamous on the show. He may be a bit of an idiot sometimes, but I think that once he has committed to someone (or something...because the nature often translates from one aspect of life to another), he sees it through. I think when he's dealing with relationships, he has more to lose and tries to steer clear of them. The whole "Don't" issue has been explored in fic countless times, but it bears repeating that it isn't necessarily negative in connotation in terms of how he views his relationship with Ianto.

I keep saying I have ideas for fic, but then I get home from work and fall ssleep. Haha...eventually. :)

And as for 1...I think we had the same thought! Lol

[thebuttonontop.livejournal.com]

yeah.... like, "i can't tell you..." honestly.. him telling ianto not to leave him... and the fact that he was seriously willing to give up the world for him...

and damn. i'm gonna make copies of these audio books if you havent heard them. i'm listening to "in the silence" right now and he and ianto even talk about them being together. lol, ianto asks if they're "going steady" which is CUTE!! and it makes reference to "ianto.. the man who he... the man who loved him" etc. gods.. i'm sooooo glad that i started reading/listening to these books cause some of them really focus in a bit more on the personal relationships. unlike the show. and yeah. very very janto.
damn, have you read consequences yet?

[sariagray.livejournal.com]

I've only JUST started Slow Decay. That's it. *Sigh*

Also, isn't it interesting that Ianto is the only person (aside from John, but I'm not counting it based on the circumstances) that Jack has been with who still wants to be with him, knowing what he knows? I mean, it's really almost like the first honest relationship that Jack has.

I really need to read these books, huh??

[thebuttonontop.livejournal.com]

oh my gods. yes you do. i'm crying as hard as when i watched day 4, listening to this one here. seriously. its.... jack's in hell, and ianto's telling him that he used him. jack admits he loves ianto. oh my god.

i'll poke you on facebook. i have an idea. :)

and yes... it really is. ianto loves him inspite of and even because of who jack is. i mean, he understands him more then anyone.