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sariagray ([personal profile] sariagray) wrote2011-09-09 11:02 pm

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!?

Edited:

I am typing this over now that I have clear thoughts. Well. Relatively clear thoughts. And I want to state, for the record, that I am not really upset because of the subconcious "NO! IANTO SHOULD BE IMMORTAL!" fangirl in me. I can get past that, it's cool. What I AM upset about is the fact that this was done with almost no thought, like "HEY! They won't be expecting this." It's more shock value.

Which is fine, even, because I am okay with shock value. Hell, part of me LIKED that Ianto died, okay? I'm sick and twisted. 

But this - beyond the death-resurrection of Rex - this whole series really made no sense to me. Nothing was really answered. At all. There was absolutely no resolution. The whole series was absolutely pointless. There were no major sacrifices, there was no actual character development beyond the development of the characters to whom we were introduced (and even then, it was watery), no growth at all.

I got the point(s) to each episode of the first two seasons, and the point(s) to COE, and they made me feel something on a deep emotional level.

This? I felt anger and frustration. But not because of the events/characters (i.e. "I am frustrated with the way Jack is handling this! This is going to go poorly!" or "I am angry that those men are killing the poor space whale for meat!" or "How dare these people discuss the fate of the children like it's the Wannsee Conference!") like I used to. No, now it's more frustration at the writing itself, the lack of major continuity while pretending to be serious (rather than the usual lack of minor continuity while NOT pretending to be anything other than what it is).

The writing was shoddy in terms of research (see also: Why is Jack wearing a WWII coat in 1920-whatever, and don't tell me some BS about alternate time lines?) early on, but I wasn't exactly expecting High Art, so I went with it, okay? And I enjoyed it on a...casual level, for a while. Bits of it. It had it's really great moments. But what I take away from it is NOT those great moments. No, it's the serious lack of actual care I had for the characters and the events and everything. And I'm more heartbroken about that than I ever was at Suzie/Owen/Tosh/Ianto/Vera/Esther's deaths.

So. 

I will continue on with what I know, and what I know is S1-3. Because I can't write fic about something I don't even understand, can I? (And maybe I'm just dense, so please feel free to enlighten me if you can explain this thing!)

Also - apologies to those who've commented already and are now therefore losing what I originally posted. Therefore, I will include it here:

I have no words. WTF WAS THAT.
I am not okay with this, actually. Sure. Esther's death sucked. And I was sad at the thought of Dead!Rex. But Immortal!Rex? NOT OKAY. I really hate this show right now, you guys. SO MUCH. It doesn't make sense AT ALL.
Someone hug me?
(Not to mention that I still have no idea what this whole show was about to begin with).

I still need hugs, though!


[identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yep.

Funny - I REALLY miss COE right now.

[identity profile] kiraclara.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
*Gasps* Don't speak those devil letters to me.
However that was so much better than this.

[identity profile] kiraclara.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
So wait...Jack, Gwen, and Rhys live and the only one immortal is Rex....I've lost all faith in humanity and my post modernism class makes sense about the world being one fucked up cookie

[identity profile] ericadawn16.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
We hug each other...

I agree completely. It makes no sense and just sets us up for the inevitable...why does Rex get to be immortal since he's the ONE person that will never sleep with Jack?

[identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
*CLINGS*

It...there was no rhyme or reason to it at ALL. Except to dig the knife in, really.

[identity profile] jedi-harkness.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs* My mom's pissed, too. I'm just pissed that the immortality didn't happen to Ianto. On that point, it seems like RTD is laughing at us.

[identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
*Hugs* This whole series made my head hurt. I'm going to go watch Mad Men, I think. I can handle that. lol

[identity profile] jedi-harkness.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Mom and I LOVE Mad Men! :D

I know you like shipping Don and Sal (if I remember correctly), but I quite like the idea of a TW/MM crossover and shipping Jack and Don! Those guys are BEYOND HOT! :D

[identity profile] choccy-grl.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't watch any of it and I stumbled on the Rex immortal thing in a spoiler before I went to bed last night. It did make me mad that it wasn't Ianto (I can't help that, I'm sad) not because Ianto is dead but because it just felt like RTD sticking his middle finger up at us '9 emotional women' again. Yes, you guys have been writing it for years, I'll give it to you, just with the wrong person
I don't understand how Rex became immortal though, the spoiler I read said he had Jack's blood but if Jack's secret to immortality was in his blood, then if he bled to death he wouldn't come back, surely. And all the tests TW must have done on him over the years, someone (Owen, because he was a genius, a prat but a genius)must have been able to work this out. And of course if it's in one bodily fluid then surely...well I won't go there but Ianto should have gasped back to life in Thames House right back the time Jack did. AND we don't have the same blood forever, so when Jack's blood is gone and Rex is producing his own blood cells again, will he no longer be immortal!

Anyway I'm blathering, I've already fixed it in my head, although I doubt I'll write it because it would mean watching MD (because my writers urge for details/research would insist on it). Needless to say, after many explainations - which would probably make more sense than the show - it turns out Rex was Ianto all along! (I'm certain somebody else will write this exact scenario anyway LOL)

[identity profile] miss-bekahrose.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Please continue to blather away, Choccy! (Sorry, thread hijack!) But, everything you just mentioned? Has been going round and round my head for the last hour. Just... Someone needs to teach the writers what continuity is.

[identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I was totally mad that it wasn't Ianto, too. But that's a thing that I can look past if it made sense (I'm...relatively pragmatic, maybe? When I want to be? lol).

No one understands how Rex became immortal. The blood thing can't be it. We KNOW it's not Jack's blood. And you're right. Owen would've known, or John Hart would be immortal, or Jack's blood would be gone.

I am going to go...read fluff now, I think....*sigh*

[identity profile] miss-bekahrose.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been itching all day to read your post, and now that I've watched, I can post... and just...

[identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs tight!* I miss when this show was simply ridiculous, you know? I miss weevils in hospitals and airplanes from the past and a kid who took pictures of shoes on his phone and weird circus performers and time-travelling agents who go to murder rehab and all of the good stuff. I miss when continuity didn't matter, because the show was just...crazy camp and awesome.

[identity profile] toshiani007.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Hugs,my dear, y todo mi cariño!!! Thank you for your words!!! More hugs!!!

[identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
:) Thanks! *hugs*

[identity profile] siobhan-jane.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Just watched. Could NOT have hated that ending MORE. I was okay with the whole ep for the most part (with the usual disappointment) until that ridiculous ending. WTF?! RUSSELL IS A COMPLETE ASS.

[identity profile] siobhan-jane.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And further...the f'n TARDIS made him immortal. It CAN'T be his blood. Jack would have thought of that...and he probably would have experimented with bringing someone back that way...he would have tried that...or Owen would have...

RTD is a horrible writer. I will never watch anything he puts out again.

That Joss for Steven Moffat or who knows what would be happening to Doctor Who right now.

[identity profile] siobhan-jane.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank...see? I can't even type I'm so mad!

[identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand the anger! *Hugs* Personally, I'm not mad at RTD. I still believe firmly that he has every right to do as he pleases. I just...don't have to like it. And I don't. Not really. I think maybe I'll come to terms with this, too. I actually think I'd like it better if Rex were Totally Evil. Because I like Rex, I do, really. I grew to, at any rate. I just...this whole series has given me a total migraine! *hugs* We will be okay, though. I think it's good that it's over now, and hopefully fandom can march on the way it was prior to MD. :)

[identity profile] aranellaurelote.livejournal.com 2011-09-10 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe the response to this in my house was 'Cachau bant, Davies!' I didn't watch, no one I know who did seemed happy...

[identity profile] eldarwannabe.livejournal.com 2011-09-11 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
*ALL THE HUGS. ALL OF THEM*

[identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com 2011-09-11 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
♥ *HUGS BACK ALL THE HUGS*
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[personal profile] chamilet 2011-09-15 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs*

That was definitely a wtf ending!

I am still grieving Esther:(