Stuff That I Think
Dec. 28th, 2010 07:26 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
sariagrayThat said, I am therefore going to rant about TW. Because I can.
There has been a lot of 'stuff' about Gwen-bashing lately. I think both sides are being ridiculous. I will say that I sort of have no opinions on Gwen - sometimes I like her, sometimes I don't. And, quite frankly, I don't relate to her one bit. I also don't relate to Jack. They're both up there in the "character's whose motivations I only understand on an intellectual level, rather than a personal level" list.
Which is part of my problem with the proposed Season 4 of TW. I don't foresee myself relating to ANY of the characters that have been put forth so far. Except Rhys. Rhyswood would be fun to watch. But this is why I still "hold a grudge." The three major characters with whom I could actually identify have been killed.
I know, I'm weird, but I just don't like Jack all that much. I don't dislike him, either, mind, but I'm not much of a fan. I'm sort of...meh. I only liked him when he was with Ianto. I feel the exact same way about Gwen (well, except that last bit, unless there was an episode I missed...). Owen, Tosh, Ianto, John Hart, Rhys, Andy? Love them to pieces. And they're all dead or underutilized. And, truth be told, I'm not into any of the actors, really. Except Kai, but that's only because I know he's a sweetheart. So, no, probably won't be watching Season 4.
This is such an inelegant rant so far. Sorry.
ALSO - Why do authors consistently feel the need to make both Jack and Ianto gay? It is jarring. What makes their relationship so much more is that, for both of them, gender plays no issue. Maybe for different reasons, but still. One thing RTD gave us was characters who do not fit into sexual boxes. And that's really important. Ianto is not gay. Jack is not gay. Ianto is not 'confused' about his sexuality; he's just in love with a person. Jack is not flamboyantly gay; he's just in love with everyone. Pansexual, omnisexual, whatever. At least, that's how I see it.I don't begrudge authors who like to challenge Ianto's sexuality. I get it. Maybe I've just come across a wild crop of these things, I dunno. But either way, the past x amount of stories I read that do this just make me crazy. It sort of diminishes the importance of the relationship and seems to imply that they need to fit into these roles; which is completely against the message of the show. In my opinion, anyway.
Still no sign of the cavalry to rescue my car, but I think I'm done for now.
That is all.
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Date: 2010-12-28 11:44 pm (UTC)I've always made clear that I don't really hate Gwen. I think you hit the nail on the head: I've just never identified with her. I'm with Button: I like her when she's not cheating on her husband, making cow-eyes at Jack, or bullshitting. She also irked me whenever she whined or seemed to marginalize(sp?) Ianto.
I've been madly in love with Jack from the start: He's the whole reason I began following the show. I see what you mean, though: How can you identify with an immortal from the 51st century? I've heard people talk about how CoE left him irredeemable: That's up for debate but the profound tragedy of it just made me want to wrap my arms around him. (Guess that makes me Ianto.)
It's okay if Jack and Ianto are portrayed as gay in AU fic but it does bother me if they're presented as such in a fic that's supposedly in canon. What I love most about their romance is that it did transend gender stereotypes. One of the reasons that the SIJ comms get so extreme is that he's seen as a gay role model. I've commented on a few other web sites pointing out he wasn't gay. RTD wrote him the best line: "It's not men. It's him, it's only him."
I'm excited about the new series but I'm nervous about where Jack's story direction will go. I hope there will be some acknowledgement of Ianto...