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Okay. Here's a thought. It's probably not a new thought at all, but...it exists.

No one can die. Unless they're burned. I'm going to go with burning actually working for now, until proven otherwise. If I missed a line of dialogue somewhere that contradicts this, let me know.

So. Let's say Jack was incinerated. Instantly. Completely. How does he come back from that? I mean, of course, prior to the Miracle. And I know he's been exploded and came back from that, but burnt to nothing but ash? That isn't regenerating cells, as there is no point to start from. Just...ash.

Also, if Owen had really wanted to die...couldn't they have incinerated him? It'd work the same way, I imagine.

I'm going to go...stop being morbid now.

Date: 2011-08-15 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com
It's funny the things my brain is willing to overlook, and the things it isn't. You're absolutely right that the eyeballs would not be there, but that didn't bother me a bit. But sentient ash? I cannot handle it. Not even because I think it's too horrible (which I do, obviously), but because it just...does not compute even as a fantasy concept. And normally, I can believe pretty much anything.

Like I said, it makes sense conceptually. Like math. It's just...applying it that makes my head spin. Which is weird, because I'm seeing the application, and I get the concept, so it should connect just fine. But...sentient ash?! *Flicks cigarette*

As for Owen...if his body rots, and there's still consciousness, does that consciousness end up as runoff into the bay? Are there sentient Owen-fish? Or does it become the soil? Are there sentient Owen-flowers or Owen-grass? This would be interesting.

And you're right; the mention of Owen in the first episode was nice, too, but it would be more interesting to connect that for the new audience. And in reality, I find it hard to believe that Gwen hasn't said anything like, "Is this Owen on a mass scale? Is there a really big glove?" Shout-outs to Ianto are great, but there's a whole team of people and past experiences that they're not pulling from, which doesn't make sense at all. Well. Of course it doesn't make sense. It's Torchwood. Never mind, carry on! :D

Date: 2011-08-15 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lawsontl.livejournal.com
As you said, it's funny what we are willing to accept and what we choose for further study. It'd be much easier if it had some sort of internal consistency, but it doesn't. I think that's what we're struggling with. The fact that we're TRYING to make sense of it is some sort of commentary on the human condition, I'm sure, only I'm afraid of whether it's literal or meta :)

Owen would be grass. Definitely grass.

"And what IS that smell?"

"That would be you..."

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